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27 Oct 2008 13:48
This topic of smoking has already been covered in previous forum. Peli's answer below, for me is the best solution after all who wants a nanny state?
peli
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:38 am Post subject:
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Dont want to get invoved in a smoke/no smoke war!!
But out of curiosity I wonder what would happen if a resturant went totaly non smoking and "advertised the fact big style",
I wonder what their custom would be??
I have a feeling it would be packed to the rafters
Problem then solved, smokers have places to go.
Non-smokers have theirs, everybody happy
Thats if someone has the nerve to do it!!
And take the chance! Peli
27 Oct 2008 13:55
Birdy Diane is a moderator so writes in red to highlite things and is allowed to do so.
As usual this has gone right off topic and headed for an argument, so lets get back to the original topic or I have no choice but the end the thread.
Regards
Colette
ICR Admin
28 Oct 2008 00:17
The one thing I never miss is the haggling - all I want is for them to tell me how much something REALLY is ha ha
oh and for that reason, the other thing I never miss is the market
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Fanny on 03 Nov 2008 15:49, edited 1 time in total.
28 Oct 2008 12:17
The haggling for me is one of the highlights of Turkey.
It's great to wind them up offering silly prices, and getting a bit of banter going, before usually getting to a price where you are both happy.
29 Oct 2008 17:26
the only thing i didnt like, was the over the top noise from some bars...
and a small laddy we saw gyrating and ripping his top off, whilst dancing on a podium....
31 Oct 2008 09:37
I will not miss the 2/3/4 televisions that most bars have all on the football chanels .come on guys your on holiday give it a break!!!!
31 Oct 2008 14:04
Just to highlight a point the only country in Europe with a total smoking ban is the U.K.all other countries have a partial ban or have just kicked it out all together as they saw what it was doing to there business's thats why I find it a joke when people can't understand why bars and restaurants are closing here in the U.K.
Geovil
31 Oct 2008 17:19
art deuchars wrote:I will not miss the 2/3/4 televisions that most bars have all on the football chanels .come on guys your on holiday give it a break!!!!

I agree here. the majority of tourists are female. What female wants to watch football all night???? So whos the football for ???? The male population who just happen to be the workers!
31 Oct 2008 19:16
geovil wrote:Just to highlight a point the only country in Europe with a total smoking ban is the U.K.all other countries have a partial ban or have just kicked it out all together as they saw what it was doing to there business's thats why I find it a joke when people can't understand why bars and restaurants are closing here in the U.K.
Geovil
Couldn't agree more with you geovil. It's ruined the small pub trade livede. People have lived with pubs where smokers and non smokers mix for years. Now that it has been banned people make out like it's the worst thing in the world.
Steve
01 Nov 2008 21:37
[Couldn't agree more with you geovil. It's ruined the small pub trade livede. People have lived with pubs where smokers and non smokers mix for years. Now that it has been banned people make out like it's the worst thing in the world.]
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It is one of the worst! - who wants to stink like an old ashtray and breathe in all that filthy smoke? Not me! - those who want to smoke should stay outside and give those who dont, the option not to. Off my soapbox now
02 Nov 2008 00:28
No Gene you have hit the nail on the head. A little of live and let live would be good and maybe everyone would get along just a little bit better.
02 Nov 2008 01:24
The one thing I don't miss is the over excessive use of stobe lights, we often have to leave a bar if we can't move away from the light as my wife suffers from light sensitivity (Not the epiletic type), she is happy everynow and then to just cover her eyes but when there are left on for the whole song and then the next song and the next it just gets to much.
The British Health and Safety Executive recommend that no strobing effect continue for more than 30 seconds due to the potential for discomfort and disorientation
Dave
02 Nov 2008 10:34
dksbbs wrote:The one thing I don't miss is the over excessive use of stobe lights, we often have to leave a bar if we can't move away from the light as my wife suffers from light sensitivity (Not the epiletic type), she is happy everynow and then to just cover her eyes but when there are left on for the whole song and then the next song and the next it just gets to much.
The British Health and Safety Executive recommend that no strobing effect continue for more than 30 seconds due to the potential for discomfort and disorientation
Dave
The worst place I found for the strobe lights were Richards Place, they seemed to be on constantly for each song, Phill was hiding his eyes and felt really uncomfortable. We eventually left as it was even so annoying when we were just talking to each other.
07 Nov 2008 07:04
jivebunnie0 wrote:[Couldn't agree more with you geovil. It's ruined the small pub trade livede. People have lived with pubs where smokers and non smokers mix for years. Now that it has been banned people make out like it's the worst thing in the world.]
It is one of the worst! - who wants to stink like an old ashtray and breathe in all that filthy smoke? Not me! - those who want to smoke should stay outside and give those who dont, the option not to. Off my soapbox now

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ok so non smokers want to breath clean fresh air ? thats easily cured ... stay outside where there is clean fresh air
07 Nov 2008 10:56
jonffs wrote:
ok so non smokers want to breath clean fresh air ? thats easily cured ... stay outside where there is clean fresh air
Maybe they should have non-smoking pubs and smoking pubs.
I wonder which would be fuller???
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07 Nov 2008 13:08
i went with my mum and dad this year they dont smoke we do but we just nipped outside to get a cig
as for smoking and non smoking resturants I dont think its a good idea I feel anyones cash would be welcome but smoking tables and non smoking tables would be nice
as for going outside for a cig my building is in a red light area we used to have a smoke room nice and safe indoors, now i have to go out at night alone and get harrased with seeing all sorts, plus homeless guys that rake the ashtrays
08 Nov 2008 23:07
My understanding is that the smoking ban only applies to enclosed places .similar to here, no smoking unless 50% open. As most of the restaurants are more than 50% open in
Icmeler the smoking ban won't apply.
If anyone has other information please correct me, this was what I was told by a bar manager in July.
Dave
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