owning a bar

[berties honey]

been offered a bar/resturant in icmeler what are the pit falls ie tax ownership any advice would be appriciated

[Erik The Viking]

i think the major problem is every other building is a restaurant or bar and with the credit crunch holidaymakers are fewer than previous years.

you would have to pull off a masterstroke to make any sort of money because:

The locals are very good at it
The police are corrupt
Income tax is attrocious
The season is six months at best

Still..dont let me put you off, good luck

[peli]

Hi there
Please dont take this the wrong way, but when you see all the near empty bars scraping to make a living and you having to ask about the tax system.It puts you at a disadvantage from day one.
I would be very cautious in your dealings.
I have witnessed quite a number of bars etc going t---up over the years
I hope someone in the system can help you.
Best of luck but please tread very carefully.
I think that owning a bar in Icmeler is like opening an
" Ice making plant in the antarctic", unless you have something very new and exciting to offer, Keep out of it!!
Once again
Good Luck
Peli

[JT]

I have watched lots of European women (maybe I could have added this to the other topic) with a Turkish/Kurdish boyfriend buy into a bar for their man only for it and them to go bust and then when the money runs out... well I don't need to say the rest

[Alison]

i say go for it!
I did it, me and one of my friends to be exact and another partner,
but one thing you cannot do it on ur own, you have to have a turkish/kurdish person help you do it, they know how these things go, as we english people prob wont have the first idea how to start something like that!

[jivebunnie0]

also, as more hotels are becoming all inclusive, there aren't so many people eating in bars and restaurants as there were.

[peli]

Hi Alison
Could I very respectfully ask which bar you have a partnership in
and obviously without going into detail are you doing well due to the down turn of visiters over the last couple of seasons.
Regards
Peli

[Erik The Viking]

you would be better off trying to rent out that faded blue pedlo thats sat in the field with the chickens opposite the grand aquarium for the past 3 years!

[peli]

Erik
There is two of them we can start a buisness on the canal
Peli

[Erik The Viking]

ones got the steering missing...thats yours!

[peli]

Erik
Were going to be accused of cruelty here, becouse after all.
Them pedalos are the poor little chickens homes
Peli

[celine2002uk]

Hi Bertie
How did you enjoy your holiday then ?
We go on Wednesday xx

[marjorie arnold]

Listen to admin.................anyone thinking of buying, after 15yrs I have seen so many men and women lose their life savings.Keep your money in your pocket in the uk. I know at the moment times are rough here but I still think it would be safer.Has anyone any idea of the percentage of british/turkish business' that fail?

[bill atkinson]

hi a friend of mine is an estate agent,he says the british people should try to rent for 1 year or less ,in case it does not work,thats where they go wrong, if it becomes a success and they like the complete new way of life carry on .but watch out for nov to may when every thing closes. good luck bill atkinson

[berties honey]

thanx for the advice i think it,s down to wether you trust the partner you have with not knowing the market, lingo,tax,and if you can attract the custom through the door with something different this is my first time back for 4 years and it is the same as i remember down to the same music same shows prices have gone up due to the state of the pound but thats the only change i hav till feb to make my mind up so its either heart or head time

[marjorie arnold]

Whatever you decide I wish you all the luck in the world

[peli]

Hi Berties Honey

Please dont have a go at me for this, though, no doubt others might do.
But from an outsiders point of view, if what your are saying is.
Either "Head or Heart Rules"
Be it love, or buisness
But mainly in buisness, as this is what you ask advice about.
You cant make decisions of this nature,on those terms.
You might as well toss a coin, a double headed one at that.!!
Also I notice that only one person has answered you in the affirmative but they have been very negative about it, in regard to detail !
Detail, being what you are, so obviously asking for.

Do you remember some of the "horror stories" on,
"Turkish Love Rats"
It IS still happening.
Please be carefull.
Regards
Peli

[waynesworld]

I think the cautious comments about starting a Bar are very relevant.The most important being if you DO decide to give it a go is the local knowledge on Tax etc etc.
However if you are still up for it then go for it.Who knows as the saying goes 'This time next year Rodders we could be millionaires.'
My suggestion would be to be different.Your not going to beat the existing places at what they already do.How about getting a weekly 'Strictly Come Dancing'scene going.Customers can either participate or be judges.Each couple get votes from the non participating customers on a nightly basis.No body is knocked out but their scores are carried forward each night to a weekly total.The firstplace get a prize and so do the lastplace.
This brings back each night the dancers and maybe the voters who will get carried away by the competition.
Just an idea.................

[sunluvr]

I'm one of the most trusting folk you will ever meet, sorry to say though I would not put my very hard earned dosh into a busines in Icmeler. As much as I like the place - there are far far too many con artists there. Now I don't want a backlash saying they are not all like that, I know they are not, there are some lovely peole there, however when you see wee boys getting up on the bar and tearing their shirts off and daddy encouraging it, you have to say to yourself Put your money someplace else, listen to your head.

[w3ndy]

I agree, listen to your head. I wouldn't trust anybody there where my money was concerned. Like Marjorie and Admin I've seen too many people lose their money over the years . I know a lot of the bars are all same old same old but you'd be hard pushed to come up with something to beat them at what they do.

If you do decide to go for it I wish you all the luck in the world.