Changes

[mansy]

Cheers for that mandy mo, we fly out in the morning and we didn't know what to expect.
As you say, we can make our own entertainment. As long as it's sunny (please) I don't care.

[ian]

Icemeler5 im afraid your friends were spot on....as i have said the place is very quiet even for this time of year.and most are very bored by 10pm.some may not like some of the things I've said.some may disagree.but at least its the truth...there were some people who said they would write an HONEST review when they got here.at best one has been very selective in what they have said.just to clear a few points up....there is NO entertainment at the wonder bar...they have a dj and a small stage where you could dance till 3am if you wanted to....so please don't think your going to go there and sit with your family and friends and be entertained.YOU are the entertainment...not realy the same thing is it ! As for going to a bar and listening to some Xfactor wannabes people trying to sing i say get a grip. A couple isn't going to fly 2000 miles with there kids to watch that nonsense when they could go to any pub in the UK and save themselves a fortune.slowly the resort will pick up a bit as the season goes on but there will be a lot of disappointed people this year and like icemeler5 long term visitors some may never return. The lazy day boat trip i was on yesterday had a grand total of 22 + crew.another indication of how quiet it is..the other boats were about the same...the weather hasn't helped either.back in a month or so and i hope its better.

[blondie]

Ian, if it's me you're accusing of being selective, all I can say is that I've been a member of the forum here for years and have always told it as it is, how I see it personally with my own eyes. I'm just back and what I wouldn't give to be in Icmeler again - to us, the resort was more like the Icmeler we fell in love with all those years ago, and the changes certainly spoiled nothing as far as we were concerned - quite the reverse in fact.
I have posted things as I saw them over there and from speaking to people there in Icmeler. I'm not getting into a slanging match with anyone, so the one thing I would say is for people to go over there with an open mind, see things for themselves and make their own minds up. At the end of the day, they will vote with their feet - if they don't like it, they will go elsewhere, but we will definitely be back.

[chezza100]

Ian - do you not class a DJ as entertainment?

I certainly do & as others have said your holiday is what you make it - music & a few drinks after dinner sounds really good to me.

When reading a review its important to rememeber that its one person's experience and nobody can say its wrong.

I'm flying out on 13 June so will see for myself - however I do appreciate people sharing their experiences.

[JT]

To think people are staying away from the resort because a few rules have now actually been enforced instead of the powers that be turning a blind eye is a bit far fetched

The whole travel industry is suffering at the moment with the way the economy is and also I think a major factor is the schools fining people if they take their kids out of term time.

Monarch and jet2 are offering sales every day on flights, the major companies are still advertising all kinds of discounts on British TV between programmes which is unheard of at this time of year and I think it is because people do not have the money or its the school thing

I for one welcome the change as I personally did not venture into bars with waiters jumping all over the place and the places I visited were full of people of the same ilk

[ian]

All i can say blondie is we disagree on pretty much everything and the future of icmeler will not be decided this year but in the years ahead...and if your rite and im talking nonsense then next year should see icmeler back to full capacity.i will remember the can't wait to see changes brigade if nxt year its even quieter here...but at the same time im big enough to say you were right and the changes were for the best.if the vision for icmeler is smoke filled karaoke bars with valet parking for electric scooters then i defiantly won't be part of that.im back in a month or so and have already decided to try a cruise nxt year and see what happens in icmeler.the Monday market in turnce was selling all the same stuff as usual but sadly the icmeler market today was strictly fruit n veg ...some police and council officials were also there.

[JT]

I have not been reading this topic but have now just flicked through it and what I can see cropping up a lot is "after 10pm there is no entertainment so people are walking around shops"

Lots of people did this anyway, the ones that did not want to see waiters jumping everywhere did this.

From what I can see there are places licensed to put entertainment on such as Harmony bar with its Stella show.

For many many years the restaurants in the town put a show on at 10pm illegally to stop people leaving the place and get some extra coin from them.

This stopped other places that were licensed (or not) from getting these peoples custom.

Now with the ban the people are leaving these restaurants and are now giving other bars some custom

Linekers bar stopped the lads dancing many years ago as the Zabita warned them off it but most nights through the summer it is packed with people just listening to the dj playing the music so if they can do it then I am sure others can too

I suppose lots of families will miss the dancing waiters and robots etc but as of yet I have not had a person or family book with me nor have I heard of anyone else having people book solely because they want to go to Icmeler to see the dancing.

Some people may leave but there will be new people who will replace them and will return because they loved the place the way it is now.

Changes happen and no one can alter that

Play nice folks

[ian]

Well John i hope your rite as you have more to lose than most.I've had some fantastic yrs in icmeler and more annoyed that the choice has been taken away.but sadly i fear that's not the end of the changes for icmeler.where will it stop.

[blondie]

Ian, different people want different things from a holiday - not everyone wants full-on in-your-face entertainment. For the record, I loathe karaoke with a passion and never went into those places anyway. All I'm going to add is that I have been reading many posts on Facebook, Trip Advisor and other internet sites from people who are loving the resort this year - so I'm clearly not alone in how I feel either. Do people really come to Icmeler for a kind of Blackpool/Benidorm style entertainment? I don't think so...each to their own and all that, but Icmeler never really struck me as that kind of place - although in the past couple of years, I had started to fear that it might be going down the road to becoming a mini-Marmaris../

[ian]

Time will tell blondie ...lets just wait till nxt year and see.

[blondie]

I'll be back, no matter what...

[Bev & Mandy]

I have not been reading this topic but have now just flicked through it and what I can see cropping up a lot is "after 10pm there is no entertainment so people are walking around shops"

Lots of people did this anyway, the ones that did not want to see waiters jumping everywhere did this.

From what I can see there are places licensed to put entertainment on such as Harmony bar with its Stella show.

For many many years the restaurants in the town put a show on at 10pm illegally to stop people leaving the place and get some extra coin from them.

This stopped other places that were licensed (or not) from getting these peoples custom.

Now with the ban the people are leaving these restaurants and are now giving other bars some custom

Linekers bar stopped the lads dancing many years ago as the Zabita warned them off it but most nights through the summer it is packed with people just listening to the dj playing the music so if they can do it then I am sure others can too

I suppose lots of families will miss the dancing waiters and robots etc but as of yet I have not had a person or family book with me nor have I heard of anyone else having people book solely because they want to go to Icmeler to see the dancing.

Some people may leave but there will be new people who will replace them and will return because they loved the place the way it is now.

Changes happen and no one can alter that

Play nice folks

Well said JT !! - when we started visiting Icmeler around 12/14 years ago it was a lot quieter resort and everybody loved it then - so if it is a bit quieter now I cant see it being a problem... your holiday is what you make it , we love Icmeler and will see if the changes are for the better in a couple of weeks time and will put a truthful review on here... if people want it noisy and in your face then go to Marmaris - simple.

[icemeler5]

I don't think the entertainment that use to be was loud and in your face, certainly not the restaurants we visit. Once the evening meal was over the 10 - 12 entertainment slot was great for kids of all ages, as once eaten its usually 'what shall we do now'. We as parents also enjoyed it because lets face it if the kids are happy so are we. And before anyway says make your own entertainment we also do that, and sit chatting as a family, I am talking about just 2 hours each evening which in our opinion used to give the resort a nice holiday vibe. I can't believe these changes will benefit icmeler, if that is the case why were the so called noisy, in your face places packed to capacity every night, some people actually enjoyed dancing waiters! Spare a thought for the bar owners it will be alot more difficult to keep bums on seats, and people who do like a bit of life will not go and sit in a quiet bar when they can quite easily go and drink their duty free back on the balcony. As already said each to their own, everyone has different ideas of what makes a good holiday, if its now not for you go elsewhere, the world is a big place!

[chezza100]

Of course Icmeler is not just a tourist destination for the British.

Lots of different Nationalities travel there, perhaps they are trying to entice a different kind of clientele or revert back towards a more authentic Turkish experience - just a thought.

[Bev & Mandy]

I am sure there are bars with entertainment on... the ones that have got the licence needed to.... I personally cant wait to go as always - holidays are precious and whether we are in Icmeler or the many other holiday destinations we visit we enjoy every minute....

[bikerjambo]

Personally, it'll make no difference to me. I can live with just background music, wife doesn't mind dancing waiters but can deal with there being none. We tend to eat about 6.30ish so always had to wait hours on any shows coming on anyway. 14 YO daughter is a different kettle of fish but as long as we can find her karaoke she's happy.

For the record, my mrs and I despise karaoke and had never set foot in a karaoke bar before the lassie decided she wanted to sing. Now we just go to keep her happy!

[ian]

Icemeler5 you will not get an answer from the i love the changes brigade...they can't tell you why the places that had entertainment after your meal were always packed..in many cases you had to reserve or wait for a seat...if it was that unpopular they should have been empty ! They also will not be able to give you any names of any tourists that were forced to go and watch it...the truth is there's none...we all had a choice where to eat and now that choice is gone it will have an impact in the next few years.i can't wait to read what the excuses will be then...i have 2 trips to icmeler this year and will have contributed over £3500 into the icmeler economy.£350 with icmeler online. If one plane load of tourists decide not to go nxt year...well you do the sums..there argument will be that there will be fresh tourists...surely it makes more sense to retain your tourists that usual go year after year and build up the business with fresh tourists.as i have said before they will see what they want to see but sadly many can't see the woods for the tree's .but some good news at last for those that like proper entertainment...the blues brothers have shows on...its close to the Irish bar.enjoy.

[daisysun]

Wel i have to say that i agree with Ian and icmeler5. We have never thought tbe entertainment was loud and in your face. It was only on for a short period and as mentioned families enjoyed it. Families will not book to stay in a place where there is not a lot on. We have paid a small fortune for our family of 5 to come on holiday and would prefer to enjoy it without being bored and especially the children.

[blondie]

Have you been yet, daisysun? Maybe you won't find it as bad as you are imagining...we saw lots of families while we were there and they all seemed to be enjoying themselves and finding plenty to do.

[JT]

Of course I think that there should be entertainment for the younger crowd in the evening, I am not saying there shouldn't but the argument that keeps getting posted is if there isn't anymore of the same type of entertainment that was in the resorts for many years then the resort will go bust is to me daft

Icmeler will not die simply because a bar cannot do the entertainment it used to, the licenses are there to protect all incomes (as far as I can see)

A restaurant that had the people in all night and then kept them there with entertainment that was in the eyes of the law illegal is actually stopping the bars that had the correct license (this is how I read it I could be wrong) but now the laws have or are being enforced.

I used to enjoy the show at the Majestic and visited there to see Mehmet and all the staff as often as I could and took people with me to see the show.

Ok its stopped and at the moment will not go on but that wont stop people coming to Icmeler, people do not go to Icmeler solely to
see that show.

That was entertainment in my eyes along the same lines in my book as the Stella show (ok not on as grand a scale) as in it was organised and was set up the same every night.

I will miss that show but it will not stop me going in that place to see the people who run it or have a meal as it is great food.

People ideas of entertainment is also another matter of differing opinions as Ian has mentioned that there is entertainment on in blues brothers bar but that would not be the type of entertainment I personally would go out of my way to watch.

Majestic show and stella yes but I wouldn't stay away from blues brothers because it was on

We are all different, we have to be otherwise it would be a very boring world